Subject	But that's the point. If these horror stories don't
Posted by	Guapo on March 07, 2008 at 1:18 PM
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In Reply To	Beyond foolish.... posted by LJZTT on March 07, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Message	come out in the open, then nobody will learn about shady practices. People like BradZ simply says "The best thing to do either be helpful, or just STFU" when it comes to Z1 questions. But when the horror stories are brought up, then it's "here come the crusaders". So basically it becomes "don't say anything bad about Z1". That is what 3zc is for. Is this entire process pretty? Hell no. Was their sponsorship revoked because of the hacking? Yes, but it was simply the straw breaking the camel's back. Z1's negative rep is well earned going quite a ways back. As much lip service Russell has paid to "getting better", Wednesday's actions simply showed that they are still the same. Petz #2 "What's the point of having the car if you don't drive it?" - Mrs. Guapo 08/20/05 Jeeeesus Christ - my Dad (after a ride in my Z) 12/26/04 People have the right to freedom of expression. However, people also have the right to point and laugh- aliaZ 04/06/06
Follow Ups	Aaaaaaaaaand, that's a wrap. - ENVYMYZ 10:03:29 03/07/08 it will be interesting to see if similar action is - The Devils Z 10:14:38 03/07/08 clearly you didn't read the whole thing Dee (n/m) - Halo Z 10:19:27 03/07/08 Re: clearly you didn't read the whole thing Dee - canyoncarver 21:02:11 03/07/08 less than before (n/m) - Halo Z 22:01:32 03/07/08 Re-read Damon's post. - Kenny 10:20:14 03/07/08 Halo Z and Kenny --- you both are correct --I didn't - The Devils Z 10:21:37 03/07/08 I'm not sure what you mean by that.... - Greg (Dallas) 10:26:51 03/07/08 And I was composing that post during the - Greg (Dallas) 10:27:41 03/07/08 insert an in poor taste vtd joke here. (n/m) - Tu 10:37:12 03/07/08 No, I think you still had some additionally valid - TT XTZ 14:20:27 03/07/08 Hey Greg-- - Keaner 10:33:40 03/07/08 Interesting... - Dallas DamonZ 10:51:53 03/07/08 Maybe scale it. - ni[X]it 11:06:49 03/07/08 that makes sense (n/m) - zgene4 11:10:16 03/07/08 The issue I see with that... - Keaner 11:34:24 03/07/08 Thats what mods are for. Although I like that last idea :) (n/m) - Guapo 11:51:24 03/07/08 yeah, you would. (n/m) - Zeus 11:53:55 03/07/08 Well, minimizing Mod involvement would be a priority... - Keaner 12:39:49 03/07/08 Well, that's the thing. The only ones who are claiming - Guapo 13:05:06 03/07/08 If you need help/want to talk about it... - Keaner 11:30:29 03/07/08 I still feel a Vote To Keep (VTK) should be implemented. - rojoloco (driving FL to CA) 16:28:00 03/07/08 Make it like a vote - BlackholeZ 19:58:45 03/07/08 The 1 time I used Z1 in the past 10 years, they sent me - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 17:51:52 03/07/08 I still like z1! I ordered parts tuesday and got them Today. - Kandy Orange Z 12:50:53 03/07/08 Coz woulda had the parts at your door before you ordered. (n/m) - Keaner 13:40:36 03/07/08 Minority report? - spicyZ 13:50:44 03/07/08 Somethin like that. (n/m) - Keaner 14:17:01 03/07/08 I'd get in trouble with that - BlackholeZ 20:00:06 03/07/08 Small correction - Dallas DamonZ 13:13:22 03/07/08 I'm sure we'll still get the +/- posts to keep updated - CRAZZEPETE. 10:21:48 03/07/08 My only question is, how much money is TT.net losing - ghostinator (fl) 10:35:53 03/07/08 replacing Z1 as a sponsor won't be a problem (n/m) - aliaZ 10:37:03 03/07/08 i figured as much. (n/m) - ghostinator (fl) 10:38:06 03/07/08 Re: i figured as much. - TIG3I2 10:47:30 03/07/08 lol (n/m) - Ahmed 10:50:57 03/07/08 The admins here are extremely busy as it is. - TT XTZ 14:27:36 03/07/08 maybe AMS would be interested? :) (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:45:46 03/07/08 el oh el (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 10:46:32 03/07/08 only if their ad was almost identical to Z1 and for half - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 10:47:30 03/07/08 Well plaid. (n/m) - SlicktopTT 10:56:28 03/07/08 Argyle? Scotch? Al Borland? (n/m) - boileralum 11:20:11 03/07/08 Perfect example of why I shouldn't have a conversation and - SlicktopTT 13:26:06 03/07/08 LOL....the force is strong with this one^^^ (n/m) - LJZTT 12:26:49 03/07/08 Zinger. - en5 11:25:04 03/07/08 That is your choice... - Fuzznutz 11:50:43 03/07/08 So long as they don't hack the site, they'd be fine, right? (n/m) - LJZTT 12:25:58 03/07/08 $0.00 (n/m) - Kenny 10:55:31 03/07/08 Group Hug!! (n/m) - Inzane 10:51:23 03/07/08 only if you keep your hands up this time (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 10:57:56 03/07/08 I'm claiming "vote with your wallet," lolam. I used Search. (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 11:06:49 03/07/08 I'm claiming Robo-lemming #1, lol (n/m) - LJZTT 13:00:17 03/07/08 can we move on now? do we need ANY further posts about it? (n/m) - dpjax 11:18:24 03/07/08 2nd. You know it's not a "wrap." - BradZ (FL) 11:53:50 03/07/08 I'm sure Z1 appreciates your words of support. (n/m) - Guapo 11:59:40 03/07/08 *neutrality (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 12:03:28 03/07/08 watch for splinters (n/m) - Guapo 12:06:00 03/07/08 Whatever! - Fuzznutz 12:18:33 03/07/08 Forget it... - BradZ (FL) 12:34:23 03/07/08 Re: Forget it... - Fuzznutz 12:45:04 03/07/08 This site has become childish (n/m) - njz 19:25:58 03/07/08 Nobody is making you stay (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 13:38:39 03/08/08 Never had bought, doubt I ever would have, from them - LJZTT 12:22:54 03/07/08 Sounds about right. (n/m) - spicyZ 12:55:32 03/07/08 It's okay that you don't get it. (n/m) - Guapo 12:59:54 03/07/08 Phew, thanks - LJZTT 13:04:40 03/07/08 You should be fine as long as you don't practice unethecal - Guapo 13:07:19 03/07/08 You'd be the authority on that huh? Or is it Irrationality? - LJZTT 18:51:50 03/07/08 You're the one who is irrational. Quit crying. (n/m) - Guapo 19:48:02 03/07/08 lol, somebody can't take what he dishes out, poor thing (n/m) - LJZTT 19:57:15 03/07/08 indeed ... i feel sorry for you (n/m) - Guapo 20:09:32 03/07/08 lol, you're so easily reduced to childishness (n/m) - LJZTT 20:29:22 03/07/08 Gotta stoop to your level so you'll understand. (n/m) - Guapo 20:31:41 03/07/08 I don't know how to break this to you but... - LJZTT 20:45:13 03/07/08 You are indeed confused. But that's okay Larry :) (n/m) - Guapo 20:55:19 03/07/08 Sure thing Jasper...er, Steve (n/m) - LJZTT 20:59:06 03/07/08 lol ... silly. (n/m) - Guapo 21:08:18 03/07/08 they were asking for it, don't you see the events - CRAZZEPETE. 13:15:08 03/07/08 BIG 2nd on all of it. (n/m) - TriniTT 13:40:07 03/07/08 I've never had a problem w/ Z1 except for the fact that - na300zx (OH) 12:39:25 03/07/08 Beyond foolish.... - LJZTT 12:56:00 03/07/08 would you bash them after getting screwed over? (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 13:08:25 03/07/08 I try, at the least, to refrain from "bashing" anyone - LJZTT 13:35:14 03/07/08 I agree about your 'knock-off' point in that sense, but - CRAZZEPETE. 13:53:23 03/07/08 That's totally acceptable for you to feel that way - LJZTT 17:13:49 03/07/08 But that's the point. If these horror stories don't - Guapo 13:18:22 03/07/08 Publicizing horror stories is one thing, claiming Z1 is - LJZTT 13:39:41 03/07/08 camels, straws, etc. (n/m) - Guapo 13:49:11 03/07/08 Look... - BradZ (FL) 13:58:44 03/07/08 I'm going home, it's beer time (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 14:02:52 03/07/08 Cheers. (n/m) - BradZ (FL) 14:03:58 03/07/08 The difference between you and the enthusiast is - Spongerider :) 17:01:24 03/07/08 Wow...that was amazingly snobbish - LJZTT 20:06:48 03/07/08 There is a saying that best fits your type. - Spongerider :) 20:18:40 03/07/08 Re: There is a saying that best fits your type. - LJZTT 20:27:13 03/07/08 You're about the only one left on the z1 bandwagon. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 13:23:00 03/07/08 BradZ (FL) is also on the short list to become the next Z1 - Gizmo 13:36:24 03/07/08 easy captain concludo...read and try to comprehend - CRAZZEPETE. 13:54:44 03/07/08 If you say so, don't blame me when knock-off parts - LJZTT 13:45:51 03/07/08 ... AND you lost me. (n/m) - spicyZ 13:30:09 03/07/08 They started small, just like everyone else... - Fuzznutz 13:40:10 03/07/08 that's just it, a majority of the BS was just little - CRAZZEPETE. 13:56:23 03/07/08 So true, and yet... - Fuzznutz 19:07:41 03/07/08 I am glad Z1 is done. They are very unscrupulous - sumonis 14:04:13 03/07/08 Na, na na, na, Na, na na, na, na hey hey hey, good bye. - Jason300zxTT 14:46:23 03/07/08 Which version did you listen to? - na300zx (OH) 15:08:41 03/07/08 *cough*D!CK*cough* (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:59:53 03/08/08 I was kidding... (n/m) - na300zx (OH) 15:30:57 03/08/08 I think you missed half the point: - TT XTZ 14:41:12 03/07/08 Ed Zakry (n/m) - Josher 15:07:15 03/07/08 Bye bye Z1 - BlackholeZ 15:44:12 03/07/08 Damn, I gotta go out to the garage and do that to right - Gold Z 19:53:18 03/07/08 You should have a nice replacment sticker very soon ;) (n/m) - Spddracer 21:25:53 03/07/08 This might work ;-) - Got Z? 23:57:11 03/07/08 I was actually waiting to see if I needed to do that. (n/m) - BlackholeZ 21:15:54 03/08/08 I see you're moving to SLO . - Got Z? 14:42:37 03/09/08 Woohoo! thanks joe. (n/m) - BlackholeZ 21:14:36 03/08/08 a shame really... - turboz32 17:35:44 03/07/08 I purchased something from Z1 one time in my life - ShakaShaun(Denver) 17:45:19 03/07/08 i miss them already :) (n/m) - fst300zx 19:24:43 03/07/08
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